Comments on: Is it true that there is “blatant shirk” in many parts of the Qasida Burda? http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/ Mon, 09 Jul 2007 04:55:44 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: working4islam http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-1136 working4islam Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:24:09 +0000 http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-1136 i really like how br. farraz presented his explanations, esp the part where he made the following statement and gave absolutely no proof for it: "It is authentically established that Allah granted His Beloved Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) knowledge of the events of this worldly life." this is actually a true statement, but incomplete. if you read the commentary by the authors that were mentioned in the references (i.e ibn hajar), they say that the prophet pbuh was given complete knowledge of the Tablet. ibn Hajar: "...on the night of Isra', Allah Most High showed him everything that is in the Preserved Tablet and added to that other types of knowledge, such as the secrets which pertain to His Essence and Attributes, may He be exalted.” if the prophet pbuh didnt know what was going to happen tomorrow (as he instructed the girls to omit that part in their singing), then he sure didnt have knowledge of EVERYTHING in the Tablet! instead of doing the sufi-salafi thing all over again, maybe we should appreciate the criticism from each other and make a sincere effort to establish true tawheed. and for the sake of doing so, editting a few sentences from the burdah wont kill anyone! i really like how br. farraz presented his explanations, esp the part where he made the following statement and gave absolutely no proof for it: “It is authentically established that Allah granted His Beloved Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) knowledge of the events of this worldly life.”

this is actually a true statement, but incomplete. if you read the commentary by the authors that were mentioned in the references (i.e ibn hajar), they say that the prophet pbuh was given complete knowledge of the Tablet.
ibn Hajar: “…on the night of Isra’, Allah Most High showed him everything that is in the Preserved Tablet and added to that other types of knowledge, such as the secrets which pertain to His Essence and Attributes, may He be exalted.”

if the prophet pbuh didnt know what was going to happen tomorrow (as he instructed the girls to omit that part in their singing), then he sure didnt have knowledge of EVERYTHING in the Tablet!

instead of doing the sufi-salafi thing all over again, maybe we should appreciate the criticism from each other and make a sincere effort to establish true tawheed.

and for the sake of doing so, editting a few sentences from the burdah wont kill anyone!

]]> By: ney reed http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-1039 ney reed Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:03:54 +0000 http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-1039 listen to burdah http://neyreed.multiply.com/music/item/3 listen to burdah

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]]> By: Salman http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-888 Salman Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:43:20 +0000 http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-888 salamu `alaykum What Sufi Slayer posted was what this answer by Shaykh Faraz was *replying* to and was uttered by Yasir Qadhi *before* this response. I don't see how it can be said "Yasir Qadhi responded" when what he is replying to here (supposedly) wasn't even written at the time he stated the above! Looks like Mr. Sufi Slayer hasn't been reading carefully... which shows why he is still adamantly propagating and believing in Shaykh Yasir's flawed claims. Wasalam Salman salamu `alaykum

What Sufi Slayer posted was what this answer by Shaykh Faraz was *replying* to and was uttered by Yasir Qadhi *before* this response. I don’t see how it can be said “Yasir Qadhi responded” when what he is replying to here (supposedly) wasn’t even written at the time he stated the above!

Looks like Mr. Sufi Slayer hasn’t been reading carefully… which shows why he is still adamantly propagating and believing in Shaykh Yasir’s flawed claims.

Wasalam
Salman

]]> By: The Sufi Slayer http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-886 The Sufi Slayer Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:59:18 +0000 http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-886 Yasir Qadhi responded: An example of shirk in ruboobiyyah is the stanza: "And of your generosity is the (creation) of the Wolrd and its co-wife (meaning the Hereafter)..." Here it is as if the World and the Hereafter was created from the generosity of the Prophet (SAW). An example of Shirk in Asma wa sifaat: "And part of your knowledge is the knowlege of the Tablet and the Pen..." So PART of the knowledge of the Prophet (SAW) is the knoewledge that is encompassed in the LAwh al-Mahufdh - the tablet that has EVERYTHING written on it!! and that is only 'part' of his knowledge!! Compare this mystic poem with the authentic hadeeth in Bukhari where a young girl said "And we have a prophet who knows what will happen tommorrow.' to which the Prophet (SAW) said, "Leave this (bit), and say the rest of it." Example of shirk in uloohiyyah: " And who else there, besides you, who I can call out, at times of distress and problems?" Umm... how about our Creator, the only one the Prophet (SAW) HIMSELF would turn to at times of distress?? Yasir Qadhi responded:
An example of shirk in ruboobiyyah is the stanza:
“And of your generosity is the (creation) of the Wolrd and its co-wife (meaning the Hereafter)…” Here it is as if the World and the Hereafter was created from the generosity of the Prophet (SAW).

An example of Shirk in Asma wa sifaat:
“And part of your knowledge is the knowlege of the Tablet and the Pen…” So PART of the knowledge of the Prophet (SAW) is the knoewledge that is encompassed in the LAwh al-Mahufdh – the tablet that has EVERYTHING written on it!! and that is only ‘part’ of his knowledge!! Compare this mystic poem with the authentic hadeeth in Bukhari where a young girl said “And we have a prophet who knows what will happen tommorrow.’ to which the Prophet (SAW) said, “Leave this (bit), and say the rest of it.”

Example of shirk in uloohiyyah:
” And who else there, besides you, who I can call out, at times of distress and problems?” Umm… how about our Creator, the only one the Prophet (SAW) HIMSELF would turn to at times of distress??

]]> By: Salman http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-877 Salman Mon, 13 Nov 2006 06:30:20 +0000 http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-877 salamu `alaykum sayyidi, the link has been updated. Wasalam Salman salamu `alaykum

sayyidi, the link has been updated.

Wasalam
Salman

]]> By: Faraz Rabbani http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-876 Faraz Rabbani Mon, 13 Nov 2006 06:23:21 +0000 http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-876 Please note that the answer has been updated and revised somewhat. Please note that the answer has been updated and revised somewhat.

]]> By: Mujtaba Ali http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-864 Mujtaba Ali Sat, 11 Nov 2006 22:27:40 +0000 http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-864 Asalamulikum, Similar question & answer on askimam.org regarding Burda and it's wording: http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=2217f5ecedfce707814c65be8853a98a Mujtaba Ali rightislam.com Asalamulikum,

Similar question & answer on askimam.org regarding Burda and it’s wording:

http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=2217f5ecedfce707814c65be8853a98a

Mujtaba Ali
rightislam.com

]]> By: sunnilink http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-841 sunnilink Sat, 11 Nov 2006 06:31:31 +0000 http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-841 Who's Dr. Saleh? Who’s Dr. Saleh?

]]> By: Salman http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-763 Salman Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:55:46 +0000 http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-763 salamu `alaykum Mabruk to you as well Sidi Alex, and all. salamu `alaykum

Mabruk to you as well Sidi Alex, and all.

]]> By: Asad From Baghdad http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-758 Asad From Baghdad Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:48:02 +0000 http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/is-it-true-that-there-is-%e2%80%9cblatant-shirk%e2%80%9d-in-many-parts-of-the-qasida-burda/#comment-758 Reminder to all that Yes this is attacking what Al-Maghrib said about this qasida... We hope all you sulafis see the lite and become good Sufis ...lol.. Good work man these Sulufis got no base for what they say they make things up... i loved the post Reminder to all that Yes this is attacking what Al-Maghrib said about this qasida… We hope all you sulafis see the lite and become good Sufis …lol.. Good work man these Sulufis got no base for what they say they make things up… i loved the post

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