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		<title>By: Zainab L</title>
		<link>http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2007/02/13/did-someone-say-good-bida/#comment-1498</link>
		<dc:creator>Zainab L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry the above post was me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry the above post was me</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2007/02/13/did-someone-say-good-bida/#comment-1497</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wa iyyakum akhi
Mashaalah, Maulana `Abd Ar Rahim Motala actually came to the UK, and I had the honour of being taught by him too, it wasn&#039;t much but alhamdulila [its the barakah that counts].

My main male teacher was Molana Ismail Raja saheb. I cant describe him in words!, one has to experience his suhba themselves to know. 
Inshalah you get to meet him someday [if you havent done so already], he is also really close to &#039;Hadhrat&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wa iyyakum akhi<br />
Mashaalah, Maulana `Abd Ar Rahim Motala actually came to the UK, and I had the honour of being taught by him too, it wasn&#8217;t much but alhamdulila [its the barakah that counts].</p>
<p>My main male teacher was Molana Ismail Raja saheb. I cant describe him in words!, one has to experience his suhba themselves to know.<br />
Inshalah you get to meet him someday [if you havent done so already], he is also really close to &#8216;Hadhrat&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Salman</title>
		<link>http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2007/02/13/did-someone-say-good-bida/#comment-1496</link>
		<dc:creator>Salman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>salamu `alaykum

&lt;strong&gt;Sis. Zainab:&lt;/strong&gt; Alhamdulilah. May Allah increase your knowledge and continue to benefit us through the likes of Maulana Yusuf Motala and others. I know a few scholars who graduated from Bury who are under the irshad of Maulana Yusuf. Mufti `Abdur Rahman, for example. 

I also had the chance to meet Maulana Yusuf&#039;s elder brother - Maulana `Abd Ar Rahim Motala - last year.
&lt;strong&gt;
Sidi True Life:&lt;/strong&gt; Your blog has been added.

Wasalam
Salman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>salamu `alaykum</p>
<p><strong>Sis. Zainab:</strong> Alhamdulilah. May Allah increase your knowledge and continue to benefit us through the likes of Maulana Yusuf Motala and others. I know a few scholars who graduated from Bury who are under the irshad of Maulana Yusuf. Mufti `Abdur Rahman, for example. </p>
<p>I also had the chance to meet Maulana Yusuf&#8217;s elder brother &#8211; Maulana `Abd Ar Rahim Motala &#8211; last year.<br />
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Sidi True Life:</strong> Your blog has been added.</p>
<p>Wasalam<br />
Salman</p>
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		<title>By: Yaser</title>
		<link>http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2007/02/13/did-someone-say-good-bida/#comment-1495</link>
		<dc:creator>Yaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Sh. Yusuf Motala db and all of his khulafah.  Allahu yaziduhum khairan katheeran katheeraa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Sh. Yusuf Motala db and all of his khulafah.  Allahu yaziduhum khairan katheeran katheeraa</p>
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		<title>By: MR</title>
		<link>http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2007/02/13/did-someone-say-good-bida/#comment-1492</link>
		<dc:creator>MR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the deobandi view on the Mawlid? (just kidding, don&#039;t answer it)

sorry :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the deobandi view on the Mawlid? (just kidding, don&#8217;t answer it)</p>
<p>sorry <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: True Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>True Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asalamu Alayikum Wa Rahmatullah

Your blog is great and is a eminent part of my Blogroll since it&#039;s existing, maybe you can link my new Blog now, too. I just moved my Blog from Blogspot to WordPress.

And I as well need help finding a new name: http://truelife200vi.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/blog-needs-name/

Jazak&#039;Allah khairun.

Was Salam
True Life</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asalamu Alayikum Wa Rahmatullah</p>
<p>Your blog is great and is a eminent part of my Blogroll since it&#8217;s existing, maybe you can link my new Blog now, too. I just moved my Blog from Blogspot to WordPress.</p>
<p>And I as well need help finding a new name: <a href="http://truelife200vi.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/blog-needs-name/" rel="nofollow">http://truelife200vi.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/blog-needs-name/</a></p>
<p>Jazak&#8217;Allah khairun.</p>
<p>Was Salam<br />
True Life</p>
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		<title>By: Zainab L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zainab L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what you mean, if one reads the link you provided, it may cause confusion to some, but I think that post doesnt really contradict this one, [its just the wording]. Maybe if this extract :
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Maulana Rashid Ahmad Gangohi (Allah be well-pleased with him) says in his fatawa (Pg: 155):

“There is no such thing as “good innovation” (bida` hasana) and whatever is called bida` hasana is in reality a sunna (s: confirmed, derived, or indicated by the sunna). However, this is a difference in usage. Everyone means the same thing.”
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was added to the article, it wouldn&#039;t cause any confusion. 

However if you still feel it confuses you, I would advise you to take the position of the information brother Salman has posted. [this opinion is more authentic], but like I said before, If one understands the difiniton Mufti Taqi Uthmani gave, it doesn&#039;t really contradict this one.

Brother Salman, I had many teachers, most were female, and a few male shuyukh too. &#039;Hadhrat&#039; Yusuf Motala db was one of them. They are all british Shuyukh, you might not know them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what you mean, if one reads the link you provided, it may cause confusion to some, but I think that post doesnt really contradict this one, [its just the wording]. Maybe if this extract :<br />
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Maulana Rashid Ahmad Gangohi (Allah be well-pleased with him) says in his fatawa (Pg: 155):</p>
<p>“There is no such thing as “good innovation” (bida` hasana) and whatever is called bida` hasana is in reality a sunna (s: confirmed, derived, or indicated by the sunna). However, this is a difference in usage. Everyone means the same thing.”<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
was added to the article, it wouldn&#8217;t cause any confusion. </p>
<p>However if you still feel it confuses you, I would advise you to take the position of the information brother Salman has posted. [this opinion is more authentic], but like I said before, If one understands the difiniton Mufti Taqi Uthmani gave, it doesn&#8217;t really contradict this one.</p>
<p>Brother Salman, I had many teachers, most were female, and a few male shuyukh too. &#8216;Hadhrat&#8217; Yusuf Motala db was one of them. They are all british Shuyukh, you might not know them.</p>
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		<title>By: Amin Abu Ismail</title>
		<link>http://alchishti.wordpress.com/2007/02/13/did-someone-say-good-bida/#comment-1482</link>
		<dc:creator>Amin Abu Ismail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalam &#039;alaykum,

&quot;I didn’t know ppl were confused over the deobandi stance on this issue.&quot; [Zainab L]

Sister Zainab, at least I was quite confused after reading these notes from a talk by mufti Taqi Uthmani (hafidhahuAllah): http://basair.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/understanding-the-concept-of-bida%e2%80%99-in-shariah/

Maybe it was just me, Allah &#039;alim.

Wassalam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalam &#8216;alaykum,</p>
<p>&#8220;I didn’t know ppl were confused over the deobandi stance on this issue.&#8221; [Zainab L]</p>
<p>Sister Zainab, at least I was quite confused after reading these notes from a talk by mufti Taqi Uthmani (hafidhahuAllah): <a href="http://basair.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/understanding-the-concept-of-bida%e2%80%99-in-shariah/" rel="nofollow">http://basair.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/understanding-the-concept-of-bida%e2%80%99-in-shariah/</a></p>
<p>Maybe it was just me, Allah &#8216;alim.</p>
<p>Wassalam</p>
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		<title>By: Salman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>salamu `alaykum

&lt;strong&gt;Sidi Amin:&lt;/strong&gt; Yes, if people were aware of the stance of the Deobandi scholars - its reality - they would have no qualms...

&lt;strong&gt;Sidi Mujahid&lt;/strong&gt;: I feel exactly the same way as you do.

&lt;strong&gt;Sidi Zain:&lt;/strong&gt; Barakallah feek for the link. I have added it to my post.

&lt;strong&gt;Sister Zainab:&lt;/strong&gt; Could you name some of your teachers. I am genuinely curious. I am aware of Deobandi scholars who do divide bida` as such (Maulana Shabbir `Uthmani being one example).

&lt;strong&gt;Sidi Yursil:&lt;/strong&gt; A command being a &quot;sunna&quot; could entail a few things. It could entail that it fulfills the general command of the sunna. It could mean that it is established through the sunna, and so forth. For example, group dhikr is not a specific sunna of the Prophet in the sense that he &quot;actually&quot; did it. However, the narrations regarding the &quot;circles of dhikr&quot; are unconditional in their purport. Therefore, any modality is accepted as long as it does not contradict other explicit laws of the shari`ah. Group dhikr is thus a fulfillment of the general qur&#039;anic and sunna command of engaging in dhikr.

Wasalam
Salman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>salamu `alaykum</p>
<p><strong>Sidi Amin:</strong> Yes, if people were aware of the stance of the Deobandi scholars &#8211; its reality &#8211; they would have no qualms&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Sidi Mujahid</strong>: I feel exactly the same way as you do.</p>
<p><strong>Sidi Zain:</strong> Barakallah feek for the link. I have added it to my post.</p>
<p><strong>Sister Zainab:</strong> Could you name some of your teachers. I am genuinely curious. I am aware of Deobandi scholars who do divide bida` as such (Maulana Shabbir `Uthmani being one example).</p>
<p><strong>Sidi Yursil:</strong> A command being a &#8220;sunna&#8221; could entail a few things. It could entail that it fulfills the general command of the sunna. It could mean that it is established through the sunna, and so forth. For example, group dhikr is not a specific sunna of the Prophet in the sense that he &#8220;actually&#8221; did it. However, the narrations regarding the &#8220;circles of dhikr&#8221; are unconditional in their purport. Therefore, any modality is accepted as long as it does not contradict other explicit laws of the shari`ah. Group dhikr is thus a fulfillment of the general qur&#8217;anic and sunna command of engaging in dhikr.</p>
<p>Wasalam<br />
Salman</p>
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		<title>By: Yursil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yursil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as-salamu&#039;alaikum Sidi,

Thank you for this, JazakAllah khayr.  Very interesting, indeed!

Can you provide some examples of what some practices would be considered a &#039;sunnah&#039; by the Deobandi scholars with the above understanding?

Were there any specific practices being discussed when the scholars gave the above explanations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as-salamu&#8217;alaikum Sidi,</p>
<p>Thank you for this, JazakAllah khayr.  Very interesting, indeed!</p>
<p>Can you provide some examples of what some practices would be considered a &#8217;sunnah&#8217; by the Deobandi scholars with the above understanding?</p>
<p>Were there any specific practices being discussed when the scholars gave the above explanations?</p>
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